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	<title>Commentaires sur : Les 200 Meilleures Universités du Monde &#8211; 2008</title>
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	<description>Le seul combat perdu d'avance, est celui qu'on ne livre pas.</description>
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		<title>Par : Ilan Voyager</title>
		<link>http://beurgeoisie.fr/2008/10/20/les-200-meilleures-universites-du-monde-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilan Voyager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah cette rage du classement, si anglo-saxon et specialement américain.
Quel est le meilleur compositeur? Bach? Vivaldi?Lizt? ridicule de les classer...
Quel est la meilleure université? sur quelle base? Production de dirigeants politiques? Vrai scientifiques? Faux gourous (exemple Friedmann a Chicago)? En quoi un diplomé de New Delhi serait plus ignorant qu&#039;un diplomé de Cornell? Prix du cursus? Difficulte du concours d&#039;entree?

Cet agacant ethnocentrisme anglo-americano-europeen.

Dans mon domaine (ingenierie hydrodynamique a tres haut niveau) il ya des grecs, turcs, coreens, hindous, russes et ukrainiens a la pelle, allemands francais, anglais, americains, chinois, australiens et bien d&#039;autres. Tous formes dans des universites bien differentes, tous aussi bons dans leur domaine. Il suffit de lire les papiers publies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah cette rage du classement, si anglo-saxon et specialement américain.<br />
Quel est le meilleur compositeur? Bach? Vivaldi?Lizt? ridicule de les classer&#8230;<br />
Quel est la meilleure université? sur quelle base? Production de dirigeants politiques? Vrai scientifiques? Faux gourous (exemple Friedmann a Chicago)? En quoi un diplomé de New Delhi serait plus ignorant qu&#8217;un diplomé de Cornell? Prix du cursus? Difficulte du concours d&#8217;entree?</p>
<p>Cet agacant ethnocentrisme anglo-americano-europeen.</p>
<p>Dans mon domaine (ingenierie hydrodynamique a tres haut niveau) il ya des grecs, turcs, coreens, hindous, russes et ukrainiens a la pelle, allemands francais, anglais, americains, chinois, australiens et bien d&#8217;autres. Tous formes dans des universites bien differentes, tous aussi bons dans leur domaine. Il suffit de lire les papiers publies.</p>
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		<title>Par : jambon sans beurre</title>
		<link>http://beurgeoisie.fr/2008/10/20/les-200-meilleures-universites-du-monde-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>jambon sans beurre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ce classement est ridicule. Par exemple, il y a 4 universités britanniques dans le Top 10 ! Ci-dessous, un commentaire d&#039;un prof anglais:

&quot;I am a reader (US Associate Professor) at one of the 30 top univeristies in the world according to THE raking. My university is in Britain, but I have worked and studied in universities in Europe and the US. I just cannot understand how my present university (again, top 30 in the world) can be &quot;better&quot; than European universities I know. Their research is better, their students are better. Why British universities are so well placed in comparison to other European universities which are arguably much better. Just because of peer esteem and our own esteem? To be an academic in Britain is to be merely an administrator who spend endless hours completing forms and responding to emails from lazy students who only think about lodging appeals if they dont get the marks they think they deserve (but they actually dont because they are lazy, unmotivated and far from being cultivated).

If my university is indeed in the top 30, all I have to say is I cannot wait to get a position in any European university that is well below my university. in these bottom universities I will be treated like an academic, not like a mere administrator and a slave&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ce classement est ridicule. Par exemple, il y a 4 universités britanniques dans le Top 10 ! Ci-dessous, un commentaire d&#8217;un prof anglais:</p>
<p>&laquo;&nbsp;I am a reader (US Associate Professor) at one of the 30 top univeristies in the world according to THE raking. My university is in Britain, but I have worked and studied in universities in Europe and the US. I just cannot understand how my present university (again, top 30 in the world) can be &laquo;&nbsp;better&nbsp;&raquo; than European universities I know. Their research is better, their students are better. Why British universities are so well placed in comparison to other European universities which are arguably much better. Just because of peer esteem and our own esteem? To be an academic in Britain is to be merely an administrator who spend endless hours completing forms and responding to emails from lazy students who only think about lodging appeals if they dont get the marks they think they deserve (but they actually dont because they are lazy, unmotivated and far from being cultivated).</p>
<p>If my university is indeed in the top 30, all I have to say is I cannot wait to get a position in any European university that is well below my university. in these bottom universities I will be treated like an academic, not like a mere administrator and a slave&nbsp;&raquo;</p>
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